SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, but you’re doing more than that, Dino. You’re getting involved in bringing medical help to the people through the hospital.  Now I understand your vision because, as you well know, that’s what our vision is, to take medical missions to the nations of the earth.  So I understand what you’re talking about.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS You know, for years people have seen me play the piano and perform and wear all these wonderful outfits, etc., you know, and they say, that guy has got it made and he goes from one auditorium to the next, one church to the next, you know, and perform every night in spotlights and what have you. But there’s so much more to it.  You know, as Christians it’s not just an entertaining element.  We are to minister. We are called as missionaries and I am called.  I am called and I have a burden on my heart.  Glad Tidings Tabernacle, the little church I was born and raised at in New York City, that’s still there on Toidy-toid Street, you know, in New York City.

We had a pastor that had a mission’s heart and I was raised with a missionary heart. And again, not just till recently were we able to go down at the Haitian Community Hospital.  And I flew in midnight last night, took five flights to get here.  I must really love you, Richard.  And, anyway, I got here.  Cheryl and I arrived and we feel refreshed this morning with a victory in our hearts because we handed to them a check for $32,000 to complete the wing of that hospital, the radiation department.  And we praise God for that and for people who have given like this letter right here, it’s so inspiring.  God has blessed the United States of America because of people like this who have given from their hearts, that’s why God has blessed us.  And He will continue to bless us if we continue to give.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And when you open up your heart and when you give, then the Bible says God responds to your giving.  Now He describes how He responds to SR02 your giving.  The Bible says when you give, He will open you the windows of heaven and He will pour you out a blessing where there shall not be room enough to receive it.  And He will rebuke the devourer, the devil, for your sake. I’ve got good news; God does not need the devourer rebuked.  You and I are the ones who need the devourer rebuked.  And whenever I face a situation, Don and Dino, where I need the devourer rebuked, and the first thing I think of is that Scripture where God told me what to do.  He said, “When you give, I will open you those windows of heaven.”  Whenever I feel like my windows in heaven and I’ve got windows up there and so do you and so do you whenever I feel like my windows are shut, I realize that God didn’t shut them, I did.

And I realize if I want them open I’ve got to give.  And then when I need the devourer rebuked, I know that when I give, God’s going to do it because His SR03 Word is true.  God’s Word is true, He cannot lie.  The Bible says, “He is not a man that he should lie.” God has given us a formula and when we work with His formula, then He multiplies it back to us.  And like this person said, I want to double my giving. He said, “I want to double my giving every year.”  And I just got a letter from a man in Philadelphia who had just sown a very large seed for our medical mission’s project.  And he said to me, “I’ve got a problem.”  And I thought, you know, I’m ready to pray.  And he began to laugh.  And I said, “You’re laughing, but why are you laughing, you say you have a problem?”  He said, “I have a problem.

Every time I give money to you, I get money back.”  And I said, “Well, what’s the problem?”  He said, “I just gave you this large gift.”  I said, “Yes, I know.”  He said, “The Internal Revenue Service just contacted me and told me that I have a tax refund for almost three times what I gave you, unexpected.”  He said, “My problem is, when I give you money I get more money back than I know what to do with.”  I said, “Well, I can alleviate you of some of that problem.”  But you cannot out give God.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS You can’t.

You know about this with your overseas work.  But just recently God has laid Haiti on our hearts.  And when I went down there this last time, I mean I come back with even more of a burden.  It’s hard to believe that so close to the United States of America there’s a country that is absolutely devastated because of poverty.  And I’ve come back with a new vision to continue to present this cause wherever I go.  We’re helping build a hospital there in Port-au-Prince, the Haitian Community Hospital. I’m sure you would appreciate that.  And probably my inspiration in helping to raise funds for that hospital comes from here, from this ministry right here.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS What do you mean by that?

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Well, I’ve known you for years, Richard, and your dad.  And I’ve been very influenced by this ministry.  I was healed in your dad’s miracle service years ago at the St. Nicholas Arena in New York City. Very few people know this.  And it’s had an impact on my life.  And now that I watch you and I know God’s using you and of course having been involved with Katherine Kuhlman and the faith healing ministries, even though I’m not actively involved with you folk, you know, in TV and on the road, my heart is with you.  And I know the ups and downs of this kind of ministry.  But I know beyond all of this that people are being helped, not only physically but spiritually.

And seeing this hospital going up and having my own family being treated in this hospital, I know what it’s doing. And this has again influenced my ministry.  Again, I’m not just a piano player but I feel that I’ve got something more to present to the world as far as the healing power of Jesus Christ.  There have been times perhaps when I play the piano, you know, that people have felt the healing power just flow through their body. And I pray for that because I pray for the Holy Spirit to play through me.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, but many times you say that before you play a song.  I’ve seen you in concert where you have given a word of testimony before a song and I’ve heard you say to people, “You may be born again.  You may receive Christ while this song is being played.  You may receive a healing in your body while this song is being played.”  You know, God can heal in many different ways.  He can heal; He’s healed many times through lots of people singing.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS He healed through David.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Certainly.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS When he played the harp.  You know, I think of that, he was an instrumentalist.  But the key to that is the power of the Holy Spirit that flows through us to others.  And the Haitian people need to feel that power.  You know, what’s so wonderful is that they’ve been exposed to so many other things, other religions.  But there are many Christians that are going down there now that are presenting Jesus Christ.  One of the greatest, I believe the greatest experiences I’ve had playing the piano was when just recently I was in this huge room with 500 little Haitian children, have never even heard, seen a piano. And on the island they found an upright broken-down piano from the casino there.  And that was the only one that’s on the island.

So they bring it out to this village and place it in this huge school room.  And here are 500 little Haitian kids surrounding me and I’m playing and they’re sitting there like awed, they’d never heard these sounds before.  And then when I was through they were reaching out to touch me and to hold on to me.  And my wife Cheryl was there and they were just reaching out just to and if that doesn’t do anything to you.  These are little children that are, that do not have food to be fed.  I mean, the poverty is incredible, and to be able to go down there and not just share my talent, but also be able to take a piece of bread and just hand it to them and say, “This is for you, representing the Christians of the United States of America.”

SPKM DON POTTER Thank you.  This is a song, a tiny bit of preempt I’ll give you ahead of it.  This is called “First Love.”  It really deals with coming to the Lord in a real way, but more than that, seeing the faults of all of our friends and fellow Christians and whatever and loving them through them.  I thought every Christian was perfect when I first saw them.  I assumed that they were all wonderful, which they are, but then someone said, “Oh, wait till you get to know a few.”  They thought and sure enough, there were a few that were not as wonderful as I would have hoped, I guess, you know.  And the bubble sort of disappeared.  Then I realized the Lord had something much stronger than just a false bubble.  It was a commitment to walk with the brethren, regardless of what you think of them.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Don Potter and I are joined today by my good friend Dino Kartsonakis. Dino, God bless you, and welcome.  You know, Dino, nobody ever lets you talk. They think that your last name is At The Piano, Dino At The Piano.  They don’t know that your last name is Kartsonakis.  They don’t know that you’re Greek.  Of course anybody who looks at you can tell that you’re not, you know, you’re not from Denmark. But

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Or Switzerland.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Or Switzerland.  But nobody ever lets you talk.  And I don’t think I’m going to let you play your piano today.  I just think I’m going to let you talk.  Why is that, Dino?  Why don’t people let you talk?

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS I don’t know.  I don’t know, because I can talk.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Do you speak Greek also?

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS I can speak a little Greek.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Don’t on this program because I don’t

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS The only phrase I like to say in Greek that everyone needs to learn how to say is that means, I love you very much.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS I receive that.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS That’s a very good one.  Oh, O.K.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Dino, where have you been, what have you been doing?  I understand you’ve just returned from Haiti. What’s going on in your life? What’s going on in your ministry?

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS You know, I had no idea, when I came forward when I was seven years old in Glad Tidings Tabernacle in New York City, and accepted Jesus Christ in my heart, I really had no idea God was going to use me as He has the past even five years.  Of course I’ve played the piano since I was three years old.  But it was seven years old when I made that commitment to the Lord.  And it was then that He had this whole thing planned, you know.  A lot of people see me primarily as a performer, entertainer, and a gospel entertainer.  But I like to see myself as an ambassador for Jesus Christ, you know.  Three years ago you may recall I recorded a record with the London Symphony for World Vision.  And that record for Ethiopia brought in over three million dollars, and that like said something to me, you know, that people are responding because God’s allowing them to respond because of the missions, the people that need to be helped.

They’re on duty seven days a week, 24 hours a day.  And it’s SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS We’ve called them many times for our family.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS  a miracle.  Yes, it’s a miracle.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Praise God.  Can I read this one?

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Sure. SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS This little lady was so cute.  She said, “I prayed with Richard about healing.”  She said, “I was praying for everybody else’s healing while you were praying,” she said, “and when I went home the doctor told me that I was completely healed of an infection that I was being treated for.”  She was praying for somebody else while you were praying.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Isn’t that what the Bible says?

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS And the doctor said she was healed completely of the infection.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS  The Bible says, “Pray one for another that you may be healed.” ( RR_James_05:16 )

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS That YOU may be healed.  That’s right.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That means you pray for someone else’s healing and when you do, that’s a seed that you plant and that healing can come back to you.  And I believe in that.  That’s a good word.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Now listen to this one.  Listen to this. This lady called over a year and a half ago.  Now the Bible says, “The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” But it didn’t say it would happen instantly.  And this woman prayed for over a year and a half, “for my son who was on drugs. He was a drug addict and an alcoholic.  I want to let you know he’s not only delivered from drugs and alcohol, he is now a counselor for others in that situation.”

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Praise God.  Praise the Lord.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Praise God.  Praise God for that.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And speaking of, speaking of drugs and alcohol, I want to remind you that we have a Set-Free Clinic at the City of Faith.  It is a drug and alcohol abuse center.  If you have a need or if you know someone who does, then pick up your telephone and call us here at the Prayer Group or call—I can’t see what number is on the screen.  Is the set-free number up on the screen or is it the Prayer Group, Kathy?  It is up? Whatever number is on the screen, you can call and we’ll get information to you about the Set-Free Clinic over at the City of Faith.  It’s our special drug and alcohol unit.  Hundreds and hundreds of people have received help through this Set Free Clinic.  If you have a need, if you’re hooked on drugs or alcohol and you really need a deliverance through medicine and prayer working together and that’s the real key you call and we can get you information about our Set Free Clinic at the City of Faith.  And right now the ORU Singers and Orchestra are standing by to minister the gospel in song.  They’re going to minister a song titled, “Shine Down Your Light On Me.”  Give them a great welcome as they sing.

SPKM ORU SINGERS  SONG Shine down your light on me

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Here is the certificate of authenticity, Lindsay,  Oral Roberts’ “Venture Into Faith.”  This certifies that this is an authentic release of the film.  Did you notice that Bill Nordstrom said we’d lost the masters, the original masters for three decades?  Lost it for 30 years, Lindsay.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Praise God we found it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That’s as long as you’ve been alive. “Venture Into Faith”

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Don’t tell all that.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS that premiered in 1952.  This strictly, this is strictly a limited edition in its original color, having never before been released as a home video presentation.  It’s now being honored as a collector’s item in commemoration of the 40th anniversary of the Oral Roberts Ministry.  And your own certificate of authenticity like this will be signed, dated, and numbered by my father Oral Roberts.  Here is the video cassette itself, for your $100 seed.  Now I received word, when I got back from Korea I received word that a lot of people have called the Abundant Life Prayer Group and have written and have said, “I don’t want to use my credit card.  I would prefer to send a personal check.”  So I’m just going to make a change this morning.  I heard when I got back from Korea that a number of people are saying, “I want to send a personal check.”

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Sounds like my credit card.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS So this is you can use your credit card.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS You’re safe, ladies, you can send a check.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Halleluia.  I can’t find it.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS We’ve got miracles coming in but I don’t know where the one is you’re talking about.  You pulled them out and I don’t know where you put it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS There was a….

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS You did it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS I know it.  I had it in here earlier.  There is one about a father whose son received Christ through this film and I wanted to share it with you.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Yes.  You pulled it out.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Here is another one.  This is from Mansfield, Massachusetts.  Richard, my son Robert had already been accepted to a couple of universities but I did not want him to attend a secular university.  I talked him into coming down to ORU for your Easter college weekend seminar. Praise God, when he came home it was like having a new son.  He was so ecstatic about ORU and said that he had definitely decided to go to ORU.  He was born 18 years ago on Easter Sunday and while there at your college weekend seminar at ORU, in the Sunday morning Easter morning service, he was born again.”  (APPLAUSE)  Isn’t that a wonderful testimony?  “Praise God for ORU and the ministry.  My son was born both times on Eastern Sunday, and I also was born again many years ago under Brother Oral Roberts’ ministry.”  Now isn’t that a great story?

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS It is.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS “I started planting seeds of faith in January of this year.  Since that time our income has doubled and so has our giving.  The principles of sowing and reaping really do work.  Praise God for his blessings and increased income.” (APPLAUSE)  That’s from Lake Worth, Florida.  And, honey…..

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS No, those are mine.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Those are yours?

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS You picked that one up.  I don’t know what you did with it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, I don’t know what I did.  This is from Michigan… is it Saline? You were born in Michigan.  You ought to know.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS I was born in Flint.  I was.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, that’s in Michigan.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Many, many, many years ago.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Many years ago, Lindsay.  Seven years later than I was born.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS No.  Yes, that’s right.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Cause you’re seven years younger than I am.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Not according to the newspapers.  They had me ten years older than you.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS I’m 21 and you’re 14.  “We gave $500 into the medical missions program at ORU.  Recently a company called my husband and offered him $10,000 a year more.  He’s going to take a new job and I know this is the answer to prayer and because we planted our seed in the ORU missions program.”  Now I think we ought to give the Lord a great handclap.  SU01 (APPLAUSE)  There are all kinds of testimonies.  I brought video home from Korea and we’re getting it all ready later on tomorrow and the next day we’ll have a lot of things to show you.  I have a great interview that I did with Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho, pastor of the world’s largest church.  I preached three times while I was in Korea and I’ll give you just a little capsule version and then I’ll show it to you tomorrow and maybe the next day.  But I preached the opening night at a banquet sponsored by the Church Growth International.

Then on Thursday evening I preached the first of a two-night crusade in Dr. Cho’s church.  The first night we had 50,000 people in attendance and the second night, 60,000 people.  On the second night they had to close the doors of the church and all the ancillary buildings at 4 o’clock in the afternoon and lock them because of the size of the crowd.  The service didn’t begin until 7 and those people sat there and prayed and sang for literally 3 hours before I got to that building.  (APPLAUSE)  And it was absolutely a miracle.  And I’ll show you more about it.  You see, Korea is one of the 40 nations that God spoke to me about.  And tomorrow…. in fact, I’ll make an announcement to all of my television personnel now.  Tomorrow I want to show the interview that I did with Dr. Cho in his office right after the crusade was completed.

Have you ever seen a tree that will lay there alive for months, and yet you know that death is in process because it’s cut off from its life, from where it was getting its life.  Well, God told me:  Denise, every day look at that tree laying on the ground knowing that you’re the one that chopped it down because, see, God gave me the power, the keys to the kingdom, and he said:  Every day the leaves will begin to fall off and you’ll know it, till one day the tree laying on the ground will be totally dried up.  (APPLAUSE)

And so every day when it was time to take the medicine, instead of taking the medicine I would look at that tree and I would picture the leaves falling off because I knew that tree was drying up.  And then eventually one day I turned to my husband and I wiggled this little finger and I said, “There’s only one leaf on this tree and it’s right here,” and he said, “It will go,” and it did and I’m TOTALLY healed, totally pain free.  (APPLAUSE) Isn’t that powerful?  It’s powerful.  But, see, this is the thing.  It was the devil.  You know, the medical field puts a name on it but the Bible puts a name on it.  It’s  the thief.  He comes to kill, steal, and destroy.  That is the spiritual name of sickness.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Denise, there are people watching this program right now who are right where you were.  The devil has afflicted them with sickness and disease.  And while the anointing of the Holy Spirit is upon you right now, I want you to begin the prayer for someone is going to get healed right now. Will you start praying and then we’ll add our prayer. Everybody join hands with the person next to you.  You people at home, you get yourself ready for this prayer while Denise leads the prayer. Denise, pray for us right now.

SPKM DENISE VICKERS  PRYM Yes, yes, yes, yes.  Now in the name of Jesus, concerning this disease, this attack, this affliction on your body, in the name of Jesus, God, right now we ask that all heaven stand at attention for these people that are viewing in, God.  You see their needs, Lord. You know the attack that’s on their body.  Now, Satan, I bind you in the name of Jesus and I command you to get your hands off of these people.  You spirit of affliction, we recognize you and we know you but we know who Jesus is and we know the power in the cross, we know the purpose. And in the name of Jesus we command you, Satan, to drop and be gone from these bodies in the name of Jesus.  Child of God, receive what is your right.  Receive your right.  It is yours. It is God’s will for your life.  Stand up and rejoice what God has for you. It is your right to walk in divine health and power in the name of Jesus, amen. SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Steve. SPKM

STEVE VICKERS  PRYM Now, Father, I pray, Lord God, that faith would be rekindled, hope would be restored.  In the name of Jesus, God, for the enemy has attacked areas where people knew that they believed before but now faith has been eroded and they question even things that they thought were settled in their lives.  God, I thank you that the scales fall off of their eyes and that once again they see who Jesus is and what he did for them and they recognize that all that he did for them is rightfully theirs and that they rise up in their heart, they stand erect as a child of God, and they appropriate by faith that that is theirs.  God, we release the power of the Holy Spirit to come upon each and every one.  God, we release your power upon your body in this hour to bring a healing to the Body of Christ, O God, that we may hear the Word of God that is being spoken to us in this hour and the calling together in Jesus’ name.  We thank you, Father.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Lindsay is back on the program today, Cheryl Prewitt Salem is with us. God bless you both.  And here is the brand new album.  And, incidentally, the song that I just sang a moment ago, “I Am,” which answers the question which Moses asked God, “Who shall I say sent me?” and God said, “Tell them I am that I am sent me.”  And here is the album, “I Am Determined,” and the cassette, “I Am Determined.”  If you would like a copy of the cassette or the album, all you need to do to receive it is write me:  Richard Roberts, Tulsa, Oklahoma, or in Canada, Richard Roberts, Toronto, Ontario.  Include a minimum gift of $10 or more and let me know that you want it and I will put it into the mail.  Or you can call the Abundant Life Prayer Group at 1-918-495-7777.  Thousands and thousands have already written for the record or cassette and I will put it right into the mail. Here are some of the songs:  “Put on the armor or God,” “Try again,” “That’s worthy everything,” “We will stand,” “I am,” (which is the song I just sang, “He is the God of a second chance,” (which Cheryl wrote just for me), “Jesus heals them all,” “They are counting on you,” “cc” (that’s the last song of that little commercial you just saw), and “I am determined,” which is the title song. (APPLAUSE)  And every time I bring one home, Lindsay steals it and gives it to somebody.  But you can have your own copy. Lindsay and Cheryl, I just thought you’d like to know since you girls are still in the baby business….

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Wait, wait.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Is it too soon, Lindsay?

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS It’s too soon. Six weeks today. Give me a break.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Six weeks has just gone by, Lindsay. I mean, what are you waiting for?

SPKM CHERYL PREWITT SALEM I’m retired.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Oh, Cheryl has retired. All right, the baby

count. I need a drum roll. Look at them running.  At the City of Faith… boom…. 2,053 babies have been born in the Childbirth Center at the City of Faith. (APPLAUSE)

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Catherine Olivia was 1941.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Catherine Olivia was 19 pounds and 41 ounces?

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS No.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Oh, 1,941.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS What are you hotwired for today?

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, I’m just awake.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Wind him down.

SPKM CHERYL PREWITT SALEM The boys are still ahead, I see. SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Oh, yes, the boys are still ahead, naturally. That’s why Lindsay and I have been having girls, you see, to catch up.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS Is that why? SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS The boys are still ahead by more than 120 babies. The boys are still ahead.  And I have a letter that I want to share…. in fact, several letters that are really precious letters.  This first one is from Ocala, Florida.  “Dear Richard, I praise God he still works miracles. About a year ago I was in a car accident and my rib cage was cracked.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL To the very end.  And that is what you’ve got to do.  You’ve got to make a decision and not take it back. You’ve got to say — no more. Until you do it the devil is going to keep bringing it to you — that desire is going to be there.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS  SU03 You know, I am greatful for all of the programs that deal with alcoholism in America.  But there is one argument that I have, and that is that there are some who teach that when you have been an alcoholic that you are an alcoholic the rest of your life, even though you are what they call “on the wagon” –

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL Right.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS But you know, I believe in my heart that when God heals a sickness in your life, that you no longer have that sickness.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL That’s right. SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, I believe that when a person is delivered from alcoholism, they don’t have to wear the stigma of being called an alcoholic the rest of their lives.  I believe that God can heal alcoholism and he can set you free.  (APPLAUSE)

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL I do, too.  I know he can.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Now someone may be able to say, Candi, someone may be able to look at you and say that you are a former (right) alcoholic.  But I can’t look at you and say that you are an alcoholic the rest of your life.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL I am a new creature.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS You are a new person.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL I’m a new person.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS God delivered you.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL He delivered me.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Now that is what goes on (Praise God) at the drug and alcohol rehabilitation center, the Set Free Clinic over at the City of Faith. We help people not only to get free, but once they are free to help them know that they don’t have to be involved in that again, and that thing can be gone –

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL Forever.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS It can be delivered out of their lives.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL As though they had never done it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And we have had lots of people who have had questions on that.  And I appreciate all of the rehabilitation programs in America.  (Right) But I believe when God delivers you and when you make a decision you are going to stay delivered. You know, it’s a two-way street.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL That’s right.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS You know, you can’t just expect God to do it all.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL It’s up to you, you know.  I could have just said, well, you know — maybe.  And I could have fluctuated backwards and forward.  But God cannot work like that.  You have to make a firm decision.  You have to say no to the devil.  You have to shut the door on him and say — no more.  And when you do that God will begin to work on your behalf.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, God delivered you, and you are going to stay delivered because you made a decision to stay delivered.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL That’s right.  (APPLAUSE)  Absolutely.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Will you bless us with another song?

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL Sure will.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Giver her a great welcome as she sings the gospel again — Candi Staton Susswell.  Here she is.  (APPLAUSE) Bless you, Candi.

SPKM CANDI SUSSWELL You see, I needed him so badly in 1982 that I turned everything over to him.  And I said, “Lord, take my life. Make me a new creature.” And he did just that.  And he’ll do it for you today.  All you have to do is just reach out and take his promises and believe them.  Hallelujah.   SONG Thats_why_I_needed_you   AD03 Your child has changed, he’s lost interest in school — you can pick up the phone and ask for YOU CAN BE FREE, a free book for the asking. (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS For your copy of YOU CAN BE FREE just write me, Richard Roberts, Tulsa, Oklahoma.  Or if you live in Canada, Richard Roberts, Toronto, Ontario.  Or you can call the Abundant Life Prayer Group right now at area code 918 495-7777.  That is 918 495-7777.  And say, “Please send me that drug and alcohol survival kit.”  That is really what this is. YOU CAN BE FREE. (APPLAUSE)  And I will put it right into the mail.  SU04 It’s free and there is no obligation.  My very special guest today is the founder of Faith Ministries Evangelistic Association in Spartanburg, South Carolina.  A man who is formerly a pharmacist who got into drugs and wound up in prison.  And while he was in prison he had a visitation of God.  His life was transformed and he is now called into the ministry.  What a testimony Don Stanley has.  Don, we want to give you a welcome to Tulsa.  God bless you.  (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That’s restoration.  That is restoration. Bless us with another song. Will you do it?

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO Sure.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Give them a good handclap, Buck and Dottie Rambo, our good friends.

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO (APPLAUSE)  Love you, Richard.

SPKM BUCK AND DOTTIE  SONG I_was_the_reason   (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Buck and Dottie, come and join us, please. James was saying a word to me, Buck and Dottie.  Dottie, come and sit right here.  This is the pregnant seat, Dottie.  All the women that sit on this seat –

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO Oh, that’s fine with me.  I get pregnant with songs all the time.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS (LAUGHTER)  Lindsay is not here today.  But James had something on his heart that he wants to share.  And James, we have just a few moments left, I want you to just follow the Lord.

SPKM JAMES ROBISON First, let me say how much I love you.  Buck and Dottie, you are so precious.  What a beautiful testimony of restoration.  And thank God that you’ve been restored and we’ve got those great songs that you are singing.  And what a beautiful gift that you shared with us a moment ago.  Let me just say something — and I asked Richard if I could say this.  Because I love Richard Roberts, I love the restoration of the Lord Jesus in his life.  Boy, Richard, I can’t ever think about what God has done in your life that I wouldn’t think about if one of my children had been subjected to the kind of pressure you were subjected to as a preacher’s kid.  And of course, I know you have made mistakes, too.  But you had a lot of pressure — and then in your own life you blew it.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Yes.

SPKM JAMES ROBISON But you came back to a God that had grace — that Jesus’ grace is greater than the prophet’s message, it was greater than Jonah’s message of destruction.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Yes.

SPKM JAMES ROBISON The grace of Jesus stood in there and forgave the whole town and the prophet went off and pouted.  And he was a true prophet.  And I want the true prophets that are sometimes a little bit sharp with their words to remember, the grace of Jesus stands between the wicked and the true prophet’s message and says, “I’ll give you hope and restoration.”  And I bless the Lord for what God has done in Richard’s life.  I want to tell you something.  I am proud of the Jesus working in Richard’s life and in Lindsay — I love this couple.  And I love Oral and Evelyn Roberts.  And you’ve got to remember, my background was to be unkind and critical of them.  And I was unkind, and that is why I had to get right with God and right with Oral and Evelyn.  And I love them.  And we are all being perfected and refined.  This ministry has come through a great time of pressure, but also a great time of spiritual refreshing.  Boy, there is a revival in this campus and in this ministry, and a great outpouring of support.  But let me say something to you — many time after that great outpouring the tendency is to sort of fold your hands and let down.  Don’t you do that.  I’m saying to everyone that loves the ministry of Jesus through Oral Roberts, through Richard Roberts, through their families — don’t you let down.  More than ever you say — I’m going to seek God.  I’m going to obey God. I’m going to continue to sow seeds in good soil.  And I am going to invest in eternity and eternal purposes.  And I challenge you with all my heart, stand behind this ministry as never before — with your prayers and with your financial support.  (APPLAUSE)  I plead with you to do that.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Praise God.  We only have about 60 seconds before our program closes today, but I want everyone to join hands, and may we join hands together.  Someone may be ill in your body today, and I want to pray  PRRR for you.  There is no distance in prayer.  In Jesus’ name, in Jesus’ name, in Jesus’ name I come against the devil’s attack in your life.  SR01 And I set myself in agreement with his word, the word says, “If two or three shall agree on anything as touching anything on this earth, it shall be done of my Father which is in heaven.” ( RR_Matthew_18:19 ) And I agree by faith for you — for a miracle in your life.  I speak to the sickness and to the disease.  I speak to the fear.  I speak to the things in your life that are unlike God.  I speak to the discouragement.  I speak to the financial distress, in Jesus’ name be healed.  Be healed from your head to your feet.  Be healed.  Be set free from the devil’s domination.  Be delivered.  Oh, I believe there is no distance in prayer.  God’ healing power can flow right from this place, through this television camera, right where you are watching this program.  I thank God for miracles.  I thank God for miracles.  I want you to step to your telephone and let me know what God is doing in your life.  918 495-7777.  The Abundant Life Prayer Group is on duty seven days a week, 24 hours a day. Hallelujah. James and Betty, God bless you.  Duck and Bottie — listen to me. (LAUGHTER)  Buck and Dottie Rambo, we love you with all of our hearts.  I knew one of these days I would do that on live television.  I knew it.

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO Oh, you aren’t the first.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Let me remind you, ORU is playing Oklahoma State in baseball tonight at J.L. Johnson Stadium.  OSU is fourth in the nation.  ORU is 25th in the nation.  If you are in the Tulsa area come out and see ORU and Oklahoma State University play baseball tonight.  Till we see you next time, remember, no matter what it looks like God can turn it around for you. (APPLAUSE) SPKM ORU SINGERS  SONG Turn_it_around   (APPLAUSE)

SPKM BILL NORDSTROM Guests of the Richard Roberts program fly American Airlines, the official airline of the Oral Roberts Ministries.  I am Bill Nordstrom reminding you to join us Sunday for “Expect A Miracle” with Oral and Richard Roberts.  Check your local listings for time and station.  And remember, God can turn it around in your life.  (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Are you saying every link is important?

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO Every link is just as important as the other, because we are supportive.  We have the same strength.  We are made the same way.  We are made in the image of God.  And we are all important in the Body. And it’s time if we see a little crook, or a bend, or a weakness in one link, just say, “Hey, we’re just going to put it together, and bind it in love, and make it as strong as it ever was.”  (APPLAUSE) Because that happens sometimes in the body — some of us get weaker than others.  We have our moments.  Buck and I had our times when we SU08 didn’t want to live.  We both tried to commit suicide.  And that was 14 years ago.  And we are so happily restored in Jesus, in our ministry, in our marriage.  That is a reason we tell our story, because it has a positive, happy ending.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS It’s not pleasant to tell the story, though, is it, Buck?

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO No.

SPKM BUCK RAMBO No, but Richard, just say that if the church had allowed Dottie and Buck to go down the tube, there would have been no song, “We Shall Behold Him” — “I Will Glory In The Cross” — the greatest songs that Dottie Rambo has written have been written since the hurt, since the restoration.

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO It’s true.

SPKM BUCK RAMBO And what God has done in our lives.  Man, the reason that Dottie and I are still out here traveling, and we’re still going.  Hey, I get home — if I take a day off I get to feeling guilty.  Because that is a day that I could have been out witnessing to somebody about Jesus and could have been sharing our testimony, and sharing what God has done in restoration of our lives.  And we are so thrilled about being members of the Body of Christ.  Hey, we are just like the old country preacher,we’re just so glad to be in the work.  I really mean that.

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO Amen.

SPKM BUCK RAMBO I’m so proud of the Body of Christ.  While there seems to be great chaos and great turmoil going on — you know, God ain’t nervous about nothing.  He really — he’s not worried in the least.  He’s got control.  Sometimes we forget — hey, he’s got the final say.  He’s the final authority, and he’s got everything under control. Especially his church.  (APPLAUSE)

SPKM DOTTIE RAMBO You know, Richard, and Betty and James, and Buck — Buck’s heard me say this — but I have to recite something to you.  I think the Lord — I know the Lord gave to me to give to the Body.  I was walking through my little angel room, and we’ve talked about my little angel room where I meditate and do all my writing when I am home.  I was walking through there kind of looking, and I’m really modest about trophies and Grammies, and all the things that the Lord has blessed me to win. But they finally talked me in to putting them up on the walls. So I said, “Well, go for it.”  So Buck went in there and put them all up.  So I’d go in there and sit and laugh and look at things. And the other day I was in there looking at some things that Elvis had given me, and some trophies and I was laughing and crying.  And I said, “Lord, you know, I don’t understand it.” Here is a little country girl — I left home when I was 12 years old.  I’ve been on my own since I was a kid.  And just a lot of bad things happened in my life.  I don’t know that I could ever deserve all this.  You know. “Why did you do this for me?  I’ve made so many mistakes.  I’ve fallen on my nose so many times. And I don’t understand why you love me so much.”  And the Lord started speaking a lyric that I had to leave with you.  This was his lyric to me to give to the Body right now.  It’s so needed — With all my imperfections, faults that anyone can see, I question and I wonder what the Father sees in me.  But he constantly reminds me, he is the Father and I am the child.  So I yield in sweet surrender, making Calvary all worthwhile.  He sees me through the blood, and claims me through the Lamb.  He doesn’t see my past, he just takes me as I am.  He doesn’t see the slave, the prisoner of the chains — he sees me through the blood and he can only see a king.  He has covered me in mercy, with his robe of righteousness, blotting out all my transgressions, oh, how great his faithfulness.  When perfect love was sometimes hard for me to comprehend, Richard, he just points me back to Calvary, reminding me again that he sees me through the blood.  (APPLAUSE) That’s how he sees us, that why he loves us.