Richard Roberts has a story to share. That makes, that’s the difference. You can understand that being in the ministry. You understand that because you’re not working for a job, you’re not working for an institution. You’re not working for the establishment, so to say, so to speak. You’re working for God and it’s your ministry. And so every time a nurse goes in there she’s not just working on a patient that she learned in the college or something, she is actually ministering.

And ministry, the definition that I have come up for ministry, now there’s many definitions, but one of them is, giving of yourself so that others can be blessed. And that’s what they feel. That’s the difference that they feel in this whole place. That’s why when you walk in this place, honey, you feel it because people are ministering, doing what God has called them to do in a ministry. That makes it entirely different.

Now, Ken, let me ask you this question. You’re Kenneth Hagin’s son. I’m Oral Roberts’ son. We have a lot in common. Of course you’re a little older than I am. A year or two. But, Ken, someone … Not a few years. Oh, no, no, no, you’re not too much older. But someone may be watching today and they said, “But now, wait a minute. Ken Hagin, you’re a man of faith.” “What are you doing with your son and your wife in a medical center?”

Well, number one, is that I have never been against medicine. Now let’s go back to the Word of God. The Word of God says, “Every good and perfect gift cometh down from the father above,” right? Yes, that’s what it says. Then healing is good, whether it’s coming from God, which is divine healing, or through medical science, which is considered medical healing. They’re both from God. It’s all coming from God.

It’s all coming from God. Now, there is divine healing, where God actually intervenes and divinely … Supernatural miracle. Supernaturally does something. Someone watching this program bring a word of knowledge, an ear pops open, hearing, that’s a supernatural miracle, cannot be denied.

All through the surgery and everything. He kept going in, during the surgery they allowed him to go in, actually put on a mask and everything, he would go in and check because it was 12 hours. Craig was in there 12 hours. That’s a long surgery. Right, and you can get awful nervous and frustrated sitting out there in that waiting room, but I guess about every hour and a half David would go in and he’d come back and give us a report, which is fantastic.

And they don’t do that just because of, you know, my name’s Hagin. They do that with a lot of people because I heard him reporting to other people that were there also. That’s something very special about the City of Faith. Oh yes. And they were talking here a while ago and you were talking about, they were talking about the atmosphere at the City of Faith. And I’ve been a minister since I was 18 and I’ve been in the ministry about 27 years.

I’ve been in a lot of hospitals. You walk into most hospitals and you feel a spirit of death, depression. But you walk in this hospital and you feel life. The clinic and the research tower. The clinic, the whole place is full of life because God’s life is here, that life. And you asked Dr. Winslow and the nurse and they were talking about, what is the, what is the difference, what do the people feel from the doctors and the nurses and the aides, everybody that’s here, what do they feel, the technicians, etc., that makes it so different than any other
hospital?

And they said, well caring, etc. But you know, as I was sitting there the Lord dropped in my heart this, and He says, they were talking about, you know, not just doing it for a paycheck, etc. The Lord dropped into my heart, the difference that the people feel is the fact that every doctor, every nurse, every individual is doing the ministry that God called them to do so therefore it becomes a ministry and not a job. It is a ministry.

Richard Roberts has a story to share. Right. In fact, I don’t really think I ever got my eyes opened till I got to the top of the stairs. By that time I was crawling on my hands and knees. I guess I’d fallen down on the stairs going up, you know. I was just that, you know, come out of a dead sleep. And he was laying in the middle of his floor rolling, holding his head. Well, I knew we had a problem. We began to pray and got some, you know, some immediately relief, but then at, what, nine o’clock I think, we were right out here
at the City of Faith.

And the doctors and the technicians, it was tremendous, I can’t say enough about the hospital and the clinic and the doctors and the technicians. And at that time Dr. Pat Lester was involved in the radiology, etc., and … Still is. And he was, he was involved in all of the tests that they were running, etc., and he came out and … And Dr. Woosley was involved too. Oh yeah, Dr. Woosley. I’m going to get to him. He’s the important one. He’s the one that did the operation. Well, let me say this, Craig is fully recovered.

When he left the hospital in the first of, about the third or fourth of February of ’83, he was down below a hundred pounds. He now weighs 170 and is tall as I am and that’s just in that length of time. He completely has been restored to normal and you’d never know anything was the matter with him. We were just in in February for a cat scan with Dr. Woosley and he said everything is perfect. He said he doesn’t even have to come back for three years, is it? Three years. Now what they discovered was that it was a brain tumor.

Right, on the right side of his brain, right back here on the part that controls your coordination. Your motor function, I guess. Yes. And so it was … Helps you to walk and move your arms. He passed every coordination test that they gave him. That’s what was so unusual about it. God was even working with him even with the problem. He shouldn’t have been, as large as the tumor was, etc., he shouldn’t have been able to pass those coordination tests. And he could pass every coordination test they gave him.

That’s one of the reasons they had a little trouble discovering it. And once they discovered it they were able to handle it. But I want to talk about, instead of talking about him, he got his, I want to talk about doctors and nurses and the hospital. I was sitting there listening to Dr. Winslow and the nurse and David talk, and by the way, David was right there praying with us …

Richard Roberts wants to share something to you.Wait a minute. Now I said it, there it is, right there, the bottom one. This is what this woman called the program. I’m glad you kept that in my Bible. She said, “Thank you for an uplifting Holy Spirit filled, down to earth and up to heaven program.” Praise God, I like that. Down to earth and up to heaven. Down to earth and up to heaven. Heaven came down. And I think that’s appropriate for this song, “Heaven Came Down” and glory filled my soul. Let’s welcome the Oral Roberts University Singers.

I remind you if you’d like to have that record, you can write me, Richard Roberts, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Or you can call the Abundant Life Prayer Group, plant a seed for the record or the cassette and I’ll send it to you. And also to remind you if you have a prayer request, call the Abundant Life Prayer Group right now. Let us know what your name is, what your request is, and I’ll pray. I’ll believe and I’ll expect something to happen to you, something good … to happen to you. Right now I want to introduce my very special guests today, Ken and Lynette Hagin.

Ken, God bless you. Lynette, bless you. Ken and Lynette, something very unusual happened in your family two years ago that involved your son Craig and involved the City of Faith. Would you share what happened and go into the details of it and let people know the bad side and what God did about it, how God turned it around.

All right, I’m going to let her talk first. You start, Lynette. Well, we attended the dedication of the City of Faith in 1981. And we thought it was such a glorious thing to have a hospital, you know, with prayer and medicine together. And little did we know that October, that two years later in January that we, that our son would be a patient at the hospital. Do you want to tell him, you were the one that discovered.

Well, I discovered Craig on a Tuesday morning. He had screamed real loud, one of those “Daddy” kind of calls, but you know distress. Now how old was Craig at the time? Let’s see, two years, he was 13.

And at four o’clock in the morning it came ringing through the intercom from his bedroom and I … You knew it was one of those kind of screams that meant, get out of bed and get in there quick.

Richard Roberts wants to share something to you. We’re looking for the same kind of a nurse, a nurse who wants to be a part of a healing team. We are a healing team at the City of Faith. It’s as important what Melanie does or David does as it is what I do. It’s not important that I’m a physician, she’s a nurse, or David is a prayer partner. What’s important is that we’re a team connected together through the love of God to deliver all of God’s healing power to you as a patient.

So if you’re a nurse or perhaps you’re a minister who really feels called to do something different, or a physician, this is a place where you can do something different. You can minister to the whole person. We want you to come and join us. You can call the Prayer Group and give them your number and they’ll get it to me or they’ll get it to the nurse recruiting group or they’ll get it to Duie Jernigan in charge of the prayer partners. We are making a difference in people’s lives and we want you to come join us.

Praise God for that. Someone is receiving a healing in your right wrist, even right now while we’re talking. The Spirit of God is SU03 moving in this program today. My special guests today are Ken and Lynette Hagin. Ken and Lynette’s son Craig had a fantastic experience through prayer and medicine here at the City of Faith, and I’m going to ask them to share that story, a real life testimony of what God did for a young man here at the City of Faith.

Jim and Melanie and David, God bless you. Right now Richard Roberts is  going to introduce the Oral Roberts University Singers who are going to minister in song. And they’re going, what are you going to sing? Can’t hear you? “Heaven Came Down.” Lindsay, what did that woman say in her letter the other day, she said, “I watched”, I wish I had a copy of that. “I watched your program and”, do you have it in my Bible?